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		<title>Karman 2000 Point Starter List</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thinking of playing Karmans? Got the models in the 800 point starter and want to expand to a full 2000? This guide should point you in the right direction and by the end you&#8217;ll have a nice 2000 point army list that is not only useful but only contains the essentials so you can start [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://at-43addict.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/kac202.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-142" style="margin: 5px;" title="kac202" src="http://at-43addict.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/kac202-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>Thinking of playing Karmans? Got the models in the <a href="/articles/at-43-starter-lists/">800 point starter </a>and want to expand to a full 2000? This guide should point you in the right direction and by the end you&#8217;ll have a nice 2000 point army list that is not only useful but only contains the essentials so you can start playing at 2000 points without spending a lot of extra money on models that might collect dust on your shelf.</p>
<p>One of the first questions most Karman players have is <a href="/karmans/kaptars-and-anakongas/">Anakongas or Kaptars</a>, closely followed up by <a href="/karmans/wendigos-and-yetis/">Yetis or Wendigos</a>. For a starter list I would recommend going with Kaptars and Wendigos. Kaptars have higher strength and more range and therefore make a better all around unit. Wendigos have higher strength access to grenade launchers as well as maser strike. Yetis are very good but situational.</p>
<p>Karmans &#8211; Karmans (2000 AP)</p>
<p>Platoon 1<br />
- 4 <a href="karmans/kaptars-and-anakongas/">Kaptars</a> (Mentor)<br />
- 8 <a href="/karmans/wendigos-and-yetis/">Wendigos</a> (+ Venerable Cornelius, 2 Grenade Launcher)<br />
- 2 <a href="/karmans/karman-k-units/">K-Shooters</a> (Mentor)<br />
- 1 Easy Trike (Mentor) / (proxy <a href="/karmans/fun-with-jungle-trikes/">jungle trike</a>)<br />
- <a href="/karmans/battle-of-the-buggies/">King Buggy</a> (Mentor)</p>
<p>I built this list to be compatable for zero proxies, I know some people don&#8217;t like to play with them. If you do allow proxies i would use a jungle trike and use the extra points on karmic warrior for the wendigos.</p>
<p>The King buggy is a great all around buggy. Its flamers are what set it apart and make it better than the Thunder buggy. in this list you&#8217;ve got K-shooters so having a Jungle buggy is a bit of overkill. For a comparison of all the buggy types see the <a href="/karmans/battle-of-the-buggies/" target="_blank">battle of the buggies</a>.</p>
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		<title>Therian 2000 Point Starter List</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Vastatum</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#8217;re thinking of starting a Therian list. This will be a good guide about putting together a 2000 point cypher list (who really runs anything but cypher anyways?) that will give you a great base to build on in the future. If you&#8217;ve already got the models I listed in the 800 pt starter [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://at-43addict.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/babzero.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-52" style="margin: 5px;" title="babzero" src="http://at-43addict.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/babzero-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>So you&#8217;re thinking of starting a Therian list. This will be a good guide about putting together a 2000 point cypher list (who really runs anything but cypher anyways?) that will give you a great base to build on in the future. If you&#8217;ve already got the models I listed in the <a href="/articles/at-43-starter-lists/" target="_blank">800 pt starter</a> dont fret they are all used in this 2000 point list.</p>
<p>The first decision is whether you want to use Tiamat or Babylon Zero as your company commander. For a more shooty feel go with Babylon Zero, for some more Melee action take Tiamat.</p>
<p>Therians &#8211; Cyphers</p>
<p>Platoon 1<br />
- Tiamat (+ Omega Tiamat) / <a href="/therians/nina-babylon-zero-ouch/">Babylon Zero</a><br />
- Wraith Golgoth (Alpha)<br />
- 3 <a href="/therians/bane-goliaths/">Bane Goliaths</a><br />
- 9 Storm Golems (Alpha, 3 Sonic Gun)<br />
- 6 <a href="/therians/grim-golems-slice-and-dice/">Grim Golems</a> (+ <a href="/therians/atis-astarte-a-therian-must-have/">Alpha Atis-Astarte</a>, 1 Flamer)</p>
<p>- 2 <a href="/therians/hekat-summoning-the-creation-routine/">hekats</a> for creation</p>
<p>This gives you some more key essential models for Therians, while rounding out a 2000 point list. As you play some more you&#8217;ll figure out what else you need. With this list you will probably want to pick up 2 hekats for summoning. This is an additional cost but what would the Theirans be without hekat summoning?</p>
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